Wednesday, March 3, 2021

Rep. Lauren Boebert: If I were a Democrat

By Colorado Representative Lauren Boebert

If I were a Democrat, I'd centralize power in Washington by nationalizing our elections. It wouldn't be enough to hold all three branches temporarily. I'd need to make it permanent.

So I'd change the rules.

If I were a Democrat, I'd flood the voter pool. I'd require all states to allow same-day voter registration. I'd mandate states automatically register felons, illegal aliens, and 16-year-olds to vote, and I'd require prisons, welfare offices, and ICE to provide their voter registration information.

I'd also use taxpayer dollars to establish aggressive voter recruitment programs at leftist training camps — otherwise known as colleges and universities.

If I were a Democrat, I'd begin a chronicle of lies that all voter verification laws are racist and with that distraction, I'd enable illegal voting.

Banning all voter ID laws would be another important step.

If any local official dared question the eligibility of one of my illegal voters, I would throw them in jail. I would threaten force until no one dared resist.

I'd block efforts to verify signatures and citizenship in the name of counting every vote — not just every legal one. I'd make it more difficult for poll watchers to ensure accountability: citizen oversight is a pest.

I'd make the fraud-ridden mail-in voting of the 2020 pandemic election permanent. To ensure my win on Election Day (or Election Month under our new scheme), I would allow aggressive ballot harvesting to begin 45 days before the election, and I'd count votes received 10 days late in case we need to drum up some missing ballots.

If I were a Democrat, I'd siphon the power of states to the federal government. I'd ignore the Constitution and prevent states from determining their own voting practices. If conservative states did not readily relinquish their authority, I would reduce their representation in Congress and give their electoral votes to my friends in California or New York.

For good measure, I'd strip all state legislatures of their ability to decide how Congressional districts are drawn, and I'd also prohibit states from enforcing their election law.

Next, I'd give D.C. statehood. Now I have the Senate.

If I were a Democrat, I'd marginalize the courts and limit access to challenges. I'd insist that all election lawsuits be processed only by my friends on the District Court in Washington, D.C.

If I were a Democrat, I'd talk about taking money out of politics, but would tax businesses to provide kickbacks and multiply my own campaign war chest by 600%.

If I were a Democrat, I'd be a career politician, so I'd enrich the Swamp while further bankrupting America.

To sweep away any ethics challenges, I'd change the bipartisan Federal Election Commission into a partisan board with a new czar governed by the ruling party — mine.

Now I know these changes are ambitious, and there could be backlash. So I'd silence dissent and cancel free speech. After I controlled the government, I'd want to control the people, so I'd cancel unauthorized thoughts. I'd empower bureaucrats to prosecute individual Americans for posting anything "fact-checkers" deem "misinformation."

I'd dox and censor anyone who donated to my opponents by having the government publish their personal information. Then I'd weaponize the IRS to strip conservative churches and nonprofits of their tax-exempt status.

If I were a Democrat, I'd use the weight of the federal government to crush anyone who opposed me.

In other words, if I were a Democrat, I'd pass the "For the Swamp Act," H.R. 1.

But I'm a conservative, and I will never stop fighting for the rights of states, limited government, and election integrity.

 

36 comments:

Jerry said...

Much of what you wrote is simply not true.
Discussions cannot be fruitful if lies are the basis of facts being used in the discussion.
And you ignore the voter suppression actions Republicans have been pushing for decades.
So everything you believe (even if proven wrong) is correct and everything you claim Democrats are doing is unconstitutional?
Is there no room for error in your thinking?
Republicans are more responsible for our national debt than Democrats. Republicans refuse to cut spending and refuse to raise taxes to pay for their spending. At least Biden will raise taxes by 4 trillion dollars to pay for his spending.
It's a proven fact that mail in voting is not full of fraud.
Just two examples of misinformation in your post.

Darrell Michaels said...

For the record, Jerry, the commentary was written by Representative Lauren Boebert of Colorado.

That said, I do agree with her points.

As to your points, I think voter suppression by the Republicans is largely a left-wing myth. The left tends to think that having to show ID or purging voter registration polls to get people off that have died or moved is voter suppression. Now, in cases where there are inadequate polling stations in certain areas and such, I agree and that MUST not be tolerated.

Further, I am willing to admit when I am wrong and have done so on this very blog throughout the years. I have even admitted I was wrong to Mr. Dubya on very rare occasions, as he is almost always in error. :) If facts can be shown that I am in error, I will humbly admit it. This, by the way, is something I have almost NEVER seen from the left.

As for cutting spending, you are right that the GOP has failed on that. They bear greater responsibility in not doing this as they claimed they would. The Democrats have seemingly never advocated for cutting spending anywhere unless it was for the military or defunding the police.

Last, mail-in voter fraud is real and indeed a known issue. It is why even a union vote recently was required to be in person because of known issues with mail-in voting. I think as a little time passes, we will see more evidence of widespread mail in voter fraud come to public light, my friend.

This is certainly not misinformation on the behalf of Rep. Boebert, nor myself.

Jerry said...

The numbers on mail in voter fraud from Trump's pwn administration proved there was no voter fraud.
I get most of my numbers on most issues fron the government because their processes in collecting those numbers are most accurate.
Where do you get your numbers from? What numbers are telling you that mail in voting is full of fraud?
It's like you keep insisting leftists were involved in the attack on the Capitol, even though every credible source says that was not true. Did you watch the hearings? They are still going on. Watch them live on CSPAN.

Darrell Michaels said...

Sometimes I use government sources and sometimes I use SME sources. The Heritage Foundation has a pretty comprehensive database of voter fraud based on convictions over the years that you might find interesting.

Further, I said that there were reports of a few leftists in the capitol riots; however, I admitted that by far the most were likely seriously misguided right wingers.

CSPAN is a good source as you don't get the talking head bias injected into it.

Dave Dubya said...

Hello.

"I think voter suppression by the Republicans is largely a left-wing myth."

Widespread "voter impersonation fraud" is the Republican myth used to suppress voter rights. They have never proved their case, but who cares? Trump's lackey couldn't prove those "3 million illegal votes" that Hillary won over his total. Like all authoritarians, they fear fair elections.

The enemies of democracy have been ramping up their war for the last 40 years, since Reagan advisor Paul Weyrich openly stated, "We don’t want everybody to vote. When everybody votes we lose.”

Unprecedented and extreme gerrymandering was imposed by Republicans, marginalizing minorities’ access to fair representation.

Then came more restrictive voter IDs that mostly impacted poor urban Black people.

Then came purging of voter rolls that disenfranchised thousands of eligible voters.

Then came limiting voter registration drives, targeting the League of Women Voters among others.

Then came limiting poll access by reducing the numbers of polls and last minute changes of poll locations.

Then came the efforts directed at elimination of same day registration and early voting.

Then came the sabotage of the United States Postal Service to hinder mail-in ballots.

“Channel 4 News has exclusively obtained a vast cache of data used by Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign on almost 200 million American voters.

It reveals that 3.5 million Black Americans were categorised by Donald Trump’s campaign as ‘Deterrence’ – voters they wanted to stay home on election day...In 16 key battleground states, millions of Americans were separated by an algorithm into one of eight categories, also described as ‘audiences’, so they could then be targeted with tailored ads on Facebook and other platforms.”


https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-trump-campaign-strategy-to-deter-millions-of-black-americans-from-voting-in-2016

Austin American-Statesman:

Texas Republicans reduced ballot dropoff points, forcing longer waits in line.

“Gov. Abbott issues proclamation CLOSING (as of Oct. 2) satellite offices where voters can drop off completed mail-in ballots. Counties can only have 1 dropoff point, he says. Travis has 4, including 3 downtown. Harris has 12.

Abbott says move, which also requires early voting clerks to let poll watchers observe ballot delivery, is an election security measure. Clerks said the multiple dropoff spots were to help voters, particularly amid questions about Postal Service efficiency.”


Oh, and Trump attempted a coup to overthrow the election by sending a mob to "stop the steal" and "take our country back".

That's one hell of a "myth of voter suppression", isn't it?

Cancel me again. Go ahead. I know it feels good to not engage with my facts.

It's the least I can expect from someone who wants to cancel my vote, and millions of other Americans who didn't vote for the insurrectionist liar.

How does it go..."Cancel me once, shame on you. Cancel me twice, won't get canceled again."

Thank you. I might borrow your post and give it my review.

I can call it, "Fun with the Radical Right".

Or, "What, me worry? Boebert, Gohmert, Greene and Trump speak the truth for Me".

Jim N said...

Well I guess it's a good thing she's not a Democrat, because we don't want most of that either. She sounds kinda crazy.

Unknown said...

Hit the nail right on the head ! I can’t believe we have half of this country that hates America, rioting looting burning fed court houses and businesses and our flag ! Race bait ,cop hate but we do and the media ,hollywierd, academia, believe this is all. Justified. We a6e in a very horrible time and if we don’t wake up it will only get worse !

Dave Dubya said...

"I think voter suppression by the Republicans is largely a left-wing myth."

That myth keep proving to be true.

"Georgia House Republicans just introduced a bill to ban early voting on Sundays prior to election, when Black churches do Souls to the Polls get out the vote drives. The bill allows early voting on only 1 weekend day, second Saturday before election.

This has nothing to do with stopping voter fraud, it's pure voter suppression. People waited 11 hours during early voting in Georgia in 2020 & this will make it worse.

165 new voting restrictions already been introduced in 33 states this year according to The Brennan Center.

That number is rising every day. This underscores why Dems need to pass John Lewis Voting Rights Act & For the People Act to stop GOP voter suppression.

Why new voter suppression bills in Georgia are so dangerous: during Georgia primary voters in predominantly white areas waited 6 minutes to vote while voters in predominantly minority areas waited 51 minutes to vote.
- Ari Berman, Author, Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America

Trump only wanted to suppress 11,780 Democratic votes...on this single occasion.

Looks like law and order is coming for Crooked Don.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/politics/trump-georgia-grand-jury/index.html

Trump election fraud investigation in Georgia enters new phase with grand jury set to be seated

Atlanta (CNN)A criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia is set to intensify this week, as a grand jury convenes, offering the local district attorney her first shot at seeking subpoenas for records and interviews.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis made her investigative intentions clear with a round of letters to Georgia state officials in February, asking them to preserve documents relevant to election interference as she investigated potential state crimes including the solicitation of election fraud, conspiracy, and racketeering.


But undermining voters and crushing democracy is fine. So is inciting a coup. In fact it's ALL OK if you are a Republican, amirite?

The pro-democracy leftists are the real problem. They disagree with Trump and the radical Right. That's how much they hate America.

Dave Dubya said...

This is who they are:

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) helped organize and promote the Jan. 6 rally that turned into an insurrection. He was later invited to speak at a white nationalist meeting.

“Wow, what a group,” he said as he took his place behind a podium emblazoned with the letters “AFPAC” — an acronym for America First Political Action Conference, the second annual gathering of the white nationalist movement.

White nationalist figurehead Nick Fuentes, took the stage next, telling the crowd that “white people are done being bullied” and that America needs to protect its “white demographic core.”

The next day, Fuentes and Gosar sat down for coffee, according to a photo Fuentes posted to Twitter.

“Great meeting today with Congressman Gosar,” tweeted Fuentes, a 22-year-old Holocaust denier who once compared Jews killed in Nazi gas chambers to cookies baking in an oven. “America is truly uncancelled.”

Fuentes attended the 2017 “Unite the Right” white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where he stood alongside neo-Nazis.

Afterwards, Fuentes wrote on Facebook that the rally had been “incredible.”

“The rootless transnational elite knows that a tidal wave of white identity is coming,” he wrote. “And they know that once the word gets out, they will not be able to stop us. The fire rises!”

Better attack those "American hating leftists". It's what these guys do.

Anonymous said...


"Widespread "voter impersonation fraud" is the Republican myth used to suppress voter rights." Another example of BlueAnon.

Can you give one name, one person whose vote was suppressed.

Didn't think so.

Just the Facts! said...

Remember when the left told us;

“Trump is using the USPS to steal the election.”
"Melania Trump has a body double."
"The Capitol riot was planned by Republicans, and Capitol police collaborated."
"Detention centers are concentration camps."
"Trump is a Russian asset."
"Brett Kavanaugh is a gang rapist"(But it’s ok for Cuomo to have been accused of sexual harassment by five former aides.)
"Trump committed felony obstruction 10 times to hide his collusion with Russia"


Remember when the left asked us;

"Who paid Brett Kavanaugh's debts?"
"Why did Justice Kennedy resign?"


All popular #BlueAnon conspiracy theory's. All debunked, all mock-able.

Just the Facts! said...

Name one voter who was suppressed from voting.

Anonymous said...

Disgruntled Biden Voter to CNN: ‘They’re Dropping Bombs in Syria Right Now and Those Bombs Are Kinda Expensive For a Dude Who Owes Me $2,000’

Dave Dubya said...


Remember when the radical Right told us the election was stolen? Never mind the poll workers, secretaries of state, certification boards, lower courts, appellate courts and the Supreme Court ALL disagreed.

Name one aborted fetus. I'll wait.

Who would think none of these voter suppression tactics by the enemies of democracy deterred anyone?
==

"In 2013, the Supreme Court gutted Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which previously required states with a history of racial discrimination in voting to submit all proposed voting changes to the US Department of Justice. Now, left unchecked, states are enacting policies that inhibit equal participation in our democracy.

In 2017, Georgia purged over half a million people from its rolls, and then 87,000 of them re-registered, meaning they were eligible voters after all.

Most recently, in this year’s primary election, Kentucky slashed the number of polling places from 3,700 to 200. The county with the largest population of Black voters was left with a single voting place.

In Georgia, county officials have eliminated 214 voting precincts (or about 8% of the state’s polling places) since 2012, and most of them are in communities with predominantly low-income and Black voters. Voters in Florida saw issues with access when some counties moved polling places into affluent, gated communities. Less polling places also means longer wait times (as was the case in states like California and Texas on Super Tuesday this year), and research shows that Black and Latinx voters are more likely to have to endure them, waiting on average 45% longer than their white counterparts.

North Carolina’s state senate passed a controversial law that eliminated early voting the Saturday before Election Day. That day was the most popular day for folks casting their ballots early in 2018, and it was especially popular with Black voters. Ohio did something similar in 2014 when officials cut early voting on Sundays and weekday evenings, targeting “Souls to the Polls” groups led by Black religious organizations that took their congregations to cast their ballots following Sunday church service.

Extensive research shows that voter fraud is extremely rare, yet some officials use the fear of voter fraud as a justification to enforce restrictive voter ID requirements at the polls. This can impact voter turnout for minority voters, voters with disabilities, and voters in rural areas, who disproportionately lack the required ID. Up to 25% of Black Americans of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to 8% of white Americans.
For example, when North Dakota required voters to show ID with a residential street address a few weeks before election day, many Native American voters were left scrambling. Many Native reservations don’t use street addresses, so residents rely on P.O. boxes as their mailing address instead. Additionally, several Native voters relied on tribal ID, which doesn’t state an address. These ID restrictions can sometimes feel a bit arbitrary, like in Texas, where one can vote with a handgun license but not a valid student ID."

https://www.dosomething.org/us/articles/7-signs-voter-suppression-could-be-happening-near-you

Just don't call them enemies of democracy and equality.


Anonymous said...

This is following science?

Biden Celebrates International Women's Day by Forcing Girls to Share Bathrooms, Sports Teams, With Boys.

One Year Ago, Fauci: ‘People Should Not Be Walking Around With Masks . . . There’s No Reason to Be Walking Around With a Mask’

SCIENCE!

Anonymous said...


Whoops: Biden forgets the name of the Pentagon, as well as the name of his secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin pic.twitter.com/ZtcgHLBIAO

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 8, 2021

Man, Biden completely stammered his way through this. Here’s what he said:

So I want to thank you both and I want to thank the Sec…the…the uh…former general – I keep calling him general – my…my uh…the guy who runs that outfit over there. I want to make sure we thank the Secretary for all he’s done to try and implement what we just talked about…

“…the guy who runs that outfit over there…”

Good grief.

Just the Facts! said...

Name one voter who was suppressed from voting.

Since they can't, strangely enough the cult of #BlueAnon deflects to abortion. How very telling. They can't support their claims so they deflect, anyone surprised? Like that has never happened before, lol.

So here we have a claim of a crime (voter suppression) being committed yet no victim has taken their claim to court. On the other hand, there are countless photos of aborted humans, and then there is "Dr." Kermit Gosnell.

Dave Dubya said...

I see both of you lack any capability of addressing the facts I’ve shown. Typical far Right dismissal and denial of reality.

“Abortion is evil.” Or in some cases, the lesser of evils. But authoritarian minds can’t process that.

Is it evil for a woman to refuse bearing the child of her rapist? Is it evil to abort a fetus with no brain?

No answer is expected.

Hydranencephaly is a rare condition in which the brain's cerebral hemispheres are absent and replaced by sacs filled with cerebrospinal fluid. It's a cruel tragedy that these babies face a meaningless life with no consciousness or hope for happiness. That cruelty is a conservative "virtue".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-i-had-an-abortion-after-20-weeks/2015/09/20/174495cc-5e2f-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html

Why I had an abortion after 20 weeks

When the OB/GYN entered, I remember asking point-blank, “Is there a chance our child will be okay?” He responded kindly, softly and unequivocally: “No.”

Over the next week came referrals to high-risk pregnancy specialists and more, longer, in-depth ultrasounds. In our baby’s brain cavity, where gray matter should have been visible, there was only black. The diagnosis was the same from every doctor: Something — we would learn it was not genetic or chromosomal — had caused two leaks in our baby’s brain, one on each side, destroying it almost entirely.

We would have done anything to save the baby. We asked if there was any possibility for repair, if the brain tissue could regrow. There wasn’t. My baby would either die in the womb or shortly after birth.

Our child would never gain consciousness.


Evil woman, amirite? “Let the woman suffer with a brainless baby” is the conservative answer. Got it, your holiness.

“Racism is evil. Anti-racism is simply racism cloaked in wokeness, and therefore also an evil.”

Yes, and only radical Right white conservatives are allowed to define racism, and even anti-racism. White conservatives are just as much victims of racism as Blacks.

Nothing arrogant about that, I'm sure. Got it, Mein Gauleiter!

Racism is never racism to racists. It’s just the “way things are”.

”When we speak out against these and other evils though, we enrage leftists who only lash out more violently.”

Yes, every time white conservatives speak out against racism the left lashes out violently. Mighty white of you to state that BS.

Because all leftists are EEEEVIL! It was your damn radical Right Trump cult that terrorized congress with death and destruction. Your brainwashing is so complete you believe those who disagrees with your extremist far Right dogma are “America-hating leftists”.

Hitler's playbook again.

That is sheer indoctrinated bigotry. I say THAT is pure evil.

You still support the Big Lie from Trump, like all good Nazis, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, 3%ers, Klansmen and racist idiots.

Demonize dissent and swallow the Big Lie.

That is the essence of fascism.

But you don’t know that. You think Trump won and wearing masks in a pandemic is “silly”.

“Ignorance is strength.” Orwell understood fascism. And the American radical Right.

Dave Dubya said...

In 2017, Georgia purged over half a million people from its rolls, and then 87,000 of them re-registered, meaning they were eligible voters after all.

How many couldn’t re-register in time and could not vote? Zero? Yeah, right.

The names of the 87,000 purged eligible voters are available as a public record. It should be easy to find them.

Liberty and freedom means having rights. Voting should be as easy as buying a gun.

Tell me how purging tens of thousands of eligible voters reduces impersonation fraud. You can't.

Tell me how purging tens of thousands of eligible voters is NOT suppressing their right to vote. You can't.

The anti-democracy radical right wants to make voting even more difficult, especially for targeted minorities.

Why should our right to vote face more hurdles than buying AR-15s?

Anyone?


Right.




Darrell Michaels said...

Dave, I feel sorry for you, sir. I don't think you intentionally support evil, but have just been ingrained with leftism for so long that the dogma is simply never questioned by you or many leftists. I think most of your intentions are indeed good. The methods you support, however, are often times tools of great evil.

I agree that if a woman has to carry the child of her rapist, that would be incredibly and indescribably difficult. I would not wish that on anyone. That said, isn't terminating that innocent life only compounding that evil?

Okay, for the sake of argument, would you and your leftist club be okay then if we made abortion exceptions for rape and non-existent brains in the unborn? Could we eliminate all the other abortions? We both know that would never happen if the left were in charge. Indeed, the devout Catholic Biden is ensuring that taxpayer dollars are even being used to fund abortion on demand and without restriction right now, including partial birth abortion in some states.

As for racism, I am simply going by the definition in the dictionary.

Webster says racism is: "a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice"

Now most conservatives I know, including conservatives of color, insist on Dr. King's edict of judging people by the content of their character and NOT on the color of their skin. This very notion is considered racist to that anti-racist left today. Color-blindness is racism according to Ibrahm X Kendi and to deny "equity" in outcomes by the power of the government for people of color is racism and a part of our white fragility. What it really is, is reverse racism and is hardly unifying for our nation.

As for leftists hating America, well.... if America is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and authoritarian, then why would the left still love the nation? The fact that it is not any of those things is why I still love our country. If it were systemically corrupted with all of those maladies, I too would hate our country. The difference is that I and most of my compatriots on the right acknowledge the blemishes that need our attention but see the goodness and promises of freedom for all Americans that is our country.

The left sees victims and oppression, thus America is something to be scorned and hated. Sorry, but that is the group you are seemingly a part of of, Dave.

The fact that I vehemently disagree obviously makes me a racist and authoritarian in your book. Like I said, I feel sad for you, sir.

Darrell Michaels said...

Dave, I agree that whatever flaw caused 87K people to be purged from voter rolls needs to be determined, fixed, and ensured to not happen ever again. All of that said, that still means 413K other potentially fraudulent voters were removed from those same rolls.

As I have repeatedly said, I am absolutely against restrictions that keep LEGAL voters from exercising their civic duties. Allowing felons, dead people, voters outside of their districts, illegal aliens and people without proof of their identities to vote is fraud and dilutes the votes of other Americans. Evidently Pelosi, Schumer, and the Democratic Leftists that voted "For The Swamp" bill are more concerned with their own power than they are actually abiding by the constitution and ensuring only legal Americans vote. I guess that is the only way they can change this country they have ruled for decades and yet hate so much.

Anonymous said...

The purged must have been only Republicans as the democrats just won both GA Senate seats.



Darrell Michaels said...

Anonymous, that is a great observation! :)

Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous is unaware of which voters were suppressed.

"Reports found that the cancellations disproportionately affected people of color. 30,000 Georgia voters, re-registered too late to participate in the close 2018 election for Georgia governor.

The 2017 cancellations affected a disproportionate number of people of color, the AJC and APM Reports found."


https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/many-eligible-georgia-voters-were-canceled-nation-largest-purge/jRlixHpVs0I9wVQYdDjxvM/

Is that clear now, Vern? I know you won't read the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Not far enough to the Right.

Dave Dubya said...

2)
Good that you see a suppression problem in purges. Since voter impersonation fraud is so rare, all evidence indicates multiple times more people were disenfranchised than any possible voter impersonation fraud prevented.

Thanks, Darrell, but your sadness is wasted on me.

Perhaps you feel sad for yourself, believing that you are a victim unjustly called racist and authoritarian. I can see that how that could happen when you agree with Trump, his mob of racist insurrectionists, and their Big Lie.

As I said, abortion can be the lesser evil in many real cases. I see absolute prohibition as a unilateral definition of personhood, theocratic intolerance, and as big as big government can get.

The Constitution does not say a fetus is a person. It does not empower the government with authority over a woman’s reproductive freedom. It is nothing but cruelty to deny women their right to choose. Unsafe abortions kill women.

I believe in rights, and there are no rights when there is no choice.

I don’t believe in abortion for birth control. I don’t believe the viability of a zygote or fetus supersedes a woman’s right to choose. I don’t believe a zygote has the superior right to a woman’s gestation period and decades of servitude. I don’t believe government should deny any woman that right. It is by nature, unequal justice under law.

If you view this perspective as a monstrous indifference to life, so be it. At least I’m not demanding to impose it on the entire country.

You may see no racial discrimination or prejudice, but ask the Black Capitol cops who were repeatedly call “nigger” by Trump’s mob of racist enemies of democracy.

You may see no racial discrimination or prejudice, but ask the tens of thousands of Black voters who wait in longer lines for fewer voting locations.

You may see no racial discrimination or prejudice, but ask why Black parents need to have “the talk” with their kids about encounters with white cops. (Keep your hands visible. Don’t move. And don’t look them in the eye.)

When you say absurdities like, “judging people by the content of their character and NOT on the color of their skin is considered racist to the anti-racist left today”, how the hell can reason ever reach you? You can’t see the projection you are projecting. It reeks of more conservative white victimhood.

Dave Dubya said...

3)
“Color-blindness is racism.” I don’t think you read Kendi or understand what this means. My guess is you are regurgitating Prager U or Glenn Beck, etc.

Leftists see racism, sexism, homophobia, and other bigotry and inequality as blemishes that need our attention. The radical Right sees leftists as the blemishes that need “attention”.

The left sees the goodness and promises for freedom and want ALL to share it. The Right is threatened by minorities demanding equality and the promise of freedom.

The left sees real victims and oppression. The radical Right thinks THEY are the oppressed victims.

”The left sees victims and oppression, thus America is something to be scorned and hated.”

You still don’t get it. We see victims and oppression, want to do something about it, and the radical Right thinks this means we hate America.

What the left scorns and hates is racism, sexism, homophobia, and inequality so often reflected by the radical Right’s demonization of dissent, bigotry, and suppression of democracy.

If someone think that’s the same as hating America, maybe they are one of the blemishes that need our attention?

If seeking more equality, justice and democracy is seen as “hating America”,... and if supporting Constitutional taxes, regulations of commerce and provision for the general welfare is seen as “hating America”,... and if supporting the right to vote, to education and to health care is seen as “hating America”... and if you see white conservatives as oppressed victims of racism and injustice, maybe THAT is a bigot’s perspective.

I think believing that vile propaganda says more about the believers, than about the “leftist” people they hate. In fact, I think that makes them quite radicalized by the far Right.

Fair is fair. You may quote anything I’ve said that you believe indicates I hate America.

OK?

Darrell Michaels said...

Dave, I understand that you think anyone that agrees with Trump is a racist. I wonder how you reconcile the record number of black and Hispanic Americans that voted for him then? Are they racist and hate their own color? Or perhaps they are simply for conservative ideas and have discovered that decades of voting for Democrats has never improved the situation.

Again, you are very adept at asking your own questions but avoiding any asked of you when they are inconvenient, sir. An absolute prohibition on abortion would be in line with our founding document as a nation that guarantees LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all Americans. Further, what a woman does with her body is up to her, or should be. That said, an unborn baby is NOT her body. It is a separate life, albeit dependent upon the mother. That life is obviously and unarguably human and if not killed in an abortion will be born with all the potential that any human life might have. Just following the science here, Dave. You would deny that life for the convenience of the mother... and not just in the cases of rape or brain deformities like you argued previously.

By the way, I have never said racism doesn't exist. I just don't believe in a systemic racism that infects every institution in our country like the left and its "victims" do. By the way, thanks for proving my point that Dr. Kings views of how to judge and treat people "reeks of conservative white victimhood". In other words not paying attention to a person's color is racism to the left. Who knew Dr. King would one day be branded a racist.

Further, you accuse me of "knowing what leftists think" and then turn around and say that the right is threatened by minorities wanting freedom and equality. That is so much nonsense. It is the right that wants those very things for all Americans. It is the left that wants controllable victims that will vote for government expansion and control. I, and I dare say, an overwhelming majority of conservatives want equality of opportunity for all Americans, including those of color. We don't want a government-controlled "equity" that predetermines that America's "victims" should be compensated accordingly by some government bureaucracy. Equality is a wonderful goal to strive for all Americans. Equity it an anti-racist contrivance to support victimhood.

Darrell Michaels said...

Jerry, I absolutely support the rights of those that think differently than I do, even when I vehemently disagree with them. It is part of the reason I discuss issues here largely with people with whom I disagree. I even publish those views with which I disagree unless the person becomes nasty. That said, only Dave and Jefferson's Guardian have ever crossed that line.

When it comes to abortion, however, that is not a difference of opinion. See my previous response to Dave on this topic. A woman has a right to do as she wishes with her own body. That unborn baby is NOT her body. It is scientific fact that it is a separate life, and I believe it is deserving of any and all protections that any human life should be afforded accordingly, sir.

Jerry said...

That is your OPINION and you accept no other from any person. Quite cbrick wall of you.

Just the Facts! said...

Darrell,

Dave believes that black conservatives are "House Negros". He has said so on another blog. So why waste time dealing with such a closed minded liberal?

Darrell Michaels said...

Jerry, an unborn child growing inside of a woman is several things. 1. It is human. 2. It is a life. 3. It is a completely separate life with its own unique DNA from that of its mother.

Therefore, terminating that pregnancy for whatever reason, is the killing of a human life.

That is not my opinion, sir. Everything I just said is unarguable scientific fact. The rest of the arguments are just posturing and justifying.

Now, you may find reasons why the terminating of that life is permissible, but that changes nothing of the facts as I just laid them out, sir.

If you dismiss any of those three facts, then I would submit that you are the one that is the brick wall, my friend.

Dave Dubya said...

1)

To clarify, you cannot quote anything I said that indicates I hate America. Good. Now stop saying I hate America. OK? If anything, hate, and/or ignorance, is projected in that false accusation.

”I wonder how you reconcile the record number of black and Hispanic Americans that voted for him then?”

What we are talking about is 12% among Blacks and 32% among Latinos. They may be “record numbers” but significant gaps remain.

” Are they racist and hate their own color? Or perhaps they are simply for conservative ideas and have discovered that decades of voting for Democrats has never improved the situation.”

Yes, there are conservative, authoritarian, and nationalistic/isolationist Blacks and Latinos. No doubt Trump’s lies that “Nobody has done more for Blacks”, and more jobs going to Blacks during his time than under Obama had an effect.

”...voting for Democrats has never improved the situation”

There you go again. Where would you be without your reflexive dogma?

Here are the BLS job statistics”

Aug. 2011 the Bush Recession produced a black unemployment rate of 16.7%

January 2017, the Black unemployment rate was at 7.8 percent.

Trump crows about a 3.4% drop.

Under Obama the black unemployment rate dropped 8.9%.

Can you see how ignoring the rising Black job rates under the Black president, and praising only Trump, could be seen as a bit, shall we say, biased?

Don’t take it personally. Every human being has some prejudice and bias. Intelligent and open minded people will admit this fact. Conservatives are less prone to such self-evaluation. They already have all the answers.

”An absolute prohibition on abortion would be in line with our founding document as a nation that guarantees LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all Americans.”

That’s quite a stretch. Yet the founders never mentioned abortion or fetal rights, did they? It is nothing but assumption on your part. But the Right thinks public healthcare doesn’t fall under life liberty and the pursuit of happiness as well as the general welfare. It is a fact that taxes for healthcare were imposed by some of the founders.

A Little Perspective: Congress First Mandated Health Care in 1798.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/a-little-perspective-congress-first-mandated-health-care-in-1798-17926/

In July of 1798, Congress passed – and President John Adams signed - “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of a government operated marine hospital service and mandated that privately employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance.

The founders said nothing about abortion.

Originally it was “life liberty and property”, remember? How much property does a zygote own? If you think they changed the wording to accommodate the unborn, please share your source. I swear conservatives think they alone are the authorities on the founders and their intentions. They do assume authority on ALL matters, as we’ve seen.

Who cares if the Bible says life begins at first breath?

Dave Dubya said...

3)
”I understand that you think anyone that agrees with Trump is a racist.”

No, you misunderstand. That is NOT what I said, is it? What I DID say was, “Perhaps you feel sad for yourself, believing that you are a victim unjustly called racist and authoritarian. I can see how that could happen when you agree with Trump, his mob of racist insurrectionists, and their Big Lie.”

I will explain this to you if you still don’t understand.
If I say every racist supports birther Trump’s Big Lie, it’s not saying everyone duped by Trump is a racist.

I hope you can understand.

I’m happy to answer your questions. But in exchange, I ask only that you refute MY quoted words, NOT what you want to frame as mine. Fair?

Jerry said...

This debate can go on forever, The fetus could be described as alive at a certain point, but it is still in the womans womb and not an independent life.
I don't like abortion, but it will never be my decision to make; and I don't believe it's my place to tell a woman what she has to do.
I believe Row/Wade was a good compromise (which does not allow late term abortions) and is constitutional in that it correctly protects a woman's right to make her own decision.
You call that murder, but you have to accept that many do not including the Supreme Court.
I've never understood people who want to force other people to live as they do, think as they do and force themselves on others.

Dave Dubya said...


Anonymous "Vern", a notorious troll, is a liar, among other things. "Dave believes that black conservatives are "House Negros". He has said so on another blog. So why waste time dealing with such a closed minded liberal?"

He won't quote my words either. If he did it would include the context that Bo Snerdly worked for a racist. I provided an abundance of Limbaugh quotes that the Radical Right would prefer to ignore. And so they always do.

This is how the radical Right operates. Lie, blame, falsely accuse, and misrepresent our words. Fair discussion is out of the question.

Speaking of liars:

Boebert led a pre-insurrection reconnaissance tour for Trump’s racist coup mob. She tweeted “Today is 1776” the morning of the coup.

During the coup She tweeted the movement of the Speaker of the House.

Now she's the “victim” of the security fence she and Trump were directly responsible for.

She made a video of her whining, ending it with the sound of a gunshot and racking of another round.

https://twitter.com/RepBoebert/status/1368939576954216450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1368939576954216450%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffpost.com%2Fentry%2Flauren-boebert-pelosi-ad-sound-effect_n_60488e5bc5b60e0725f3dd38

She is a terrorist....and a liar.

This blog host even posted a meme suggesting Democrats were to blame for the fence around the Capitol.

There's no bottom to the depths of their dishonesty.

“When I became a business owner, I needed to protect myself. There was an altercation outside of my restaurant where a man was physically beat to death. There were no weapons involved. He was beat to death by another man’s hands.”
— Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), in a speech on the House floor, March 10
“Shortly after we opened our restaurant, there was an altercation where a man was beat to death … outside of my restaurant, beat to death by another man. No weapons. And I immediately wondered, how am I going to protect everyone?”
— Boebert, speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Feb. 27
“After a violent incident outside my business, I took advantage of Colorado’s open-carry laws and began to carry at work.”
— Boebert, speaking in a viral ad, tweeted Jan. 3

The Facts
In the early morning hours of Aug. 22, 2013, a man was found collapsed on a street in downtown Rifle, a town of fewer than 10,000 people in the state’s Western Slope region. He appeared to have no pulse. He was taken to a hospital and pronounced dead.
According to the raw investigative files provided to The Fact Checker by the Rifle Police Department, investigators quickly determined that the man, Anthony Green, had been briefly involved in a fight, possibly related to a drug transaction. Witnesses said Green had fought with a man who had a prosthetic leg, which then fell off. Green “duked that guy out,” a witness said.
But as investigators interviewed witnesses and collected evidence, the possibility of murder quickly appeared remote. Green had a gash on the head, but that appeared to be from a fall. There were no obvious injuries to his abdomen. In his pocket, he was carrying a glass pipe that was filled with the residue of methamphetamine.
Witnesses had said Green had run several blocks after the altercation but police searched the area and found no blood or other evidence of a deadly fight.
Finally, the autopsy report, written by forensic pathologist Robert Kurtzman less than two weeks after Green’s body was found, concluded that Green died of “methamphetamine intoxication.” Kurtzman noted that “postmortem examination of the decedent revealed superficial abrasions consistent with a fall. The abrasions were not associated with any internal injury,” whereas “methamphetamine is known to cause sudden death and abnormal behavior.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/12/lauren-boeberts-tall-tale-about-mans-death-that-led-her-pack-heat/?utm_campaign=wp_politics_am&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_politics

Dave Dubya said...

It’s been 117 days since Trump terrorists attacked the Capitol and 147 Republicans voted to overthrow the will of the people.