Thursday, June 15, 2017

Hate Trumps Love from the Left

I recall several years ago how Sarah Palin was castigated by many on the Left and in the mainstream media (but then I repeat myself) for having the temerity to release a map that "targeted" certain congressional districts for which Republicans could concentrate.  The word "targeting" was labeled as hateful and inciting violence to shoot Democrats, as it was released shortly after the shooting of Congresswoman Gabby Giffords by a mentally deranged man.  It was patently ludicrous and nothing but faux outrage.

Fast forward to today and we have the unhinged, out-of-power Left waxing eloquently, or not so eloquently, with their far more explicit hate speech towards President Trump and the Right.

Although I am not a fan and do not listen to him, I have come across this list that Sean Hannity's staff has put together of recent hate speech spewed from some of our Leftist brothers and sisters who purportedly wanted to make "love trump hate".  I'd say they were off to a very bad start, wouldn't you?

* Hollywood Actor Mark Ruffalo calls on NBC News to "cease hiring white conservatives."

* "Knights for Socialism" group at a Florida University teaches students how to "fight the fascists."

* Anti-Trump "resistance" leaders say they want to "Make America Ungovernable," call for "direct action" tactics against Republicans.

* Kathy Griffin's photoshoot depicting President Trump's severed head.

* Charlie Sheen wishes death on Donald Trump, tweeting, “Dear God; Trump next, please! Trump     next, please!" following the death of actress Carrie Fisher.

* President Trump murdered in musician Marilyn Manson's music video.

* Katie Tur insinuates Donald Trump will begin killing journalists on MSNBC, saying “Donald Trump has made no secret about going after journalists"

* Unhinged NYU professor calls on students to attack conservative speaker Gavin McInnes, calls his supporters "Nazis."

* Rachel Maddow says Donald Trump wants to murder journalists.

* Comedian Jim Carrey supports Kathy Griffin's photoshoot, says he dreams of killing President Trump.

* Madonna says she wants to "blow up the White House" during a speech.

* Black Lives Matter say they want to "fry cops like bacon" during a rally in Minnesota.

* President Obama urges liberal activists to, "Get in their faces."

* Actor Mickey Rourke goes on anti-Trump rant, says "F*** him, F*** the horse he rode in on, his   wife's one of the biggest gold-diggers I know."

* Rapper Big Sean raps about murdering Donald Trump with an icepick.

* Late-Night host Stephen Colbert goes on anti-Trump tirade, calls him "Vladimir Putin's c***-holster."

* Comedian Bill Maher jokes about Trump family incest.

* Rapper Snoop Dogg stages phony execution of 'clown' Donald Trump.

* NBC and New York Times contributor Malcolm Nance calls on ISIS to suicide-bomb Trump-owned properties.

* NYC Theater group stages performance of 'Julius Caesar,' showing the savage stabbing-death of  'Donald Trump.'

* Protesters in Philadelphia chant "Kill Trump - Kill Pence" during May Day demonstrations. "

And sadly, this doesn't even come close to listing all of the over-the-top hateful and violent rhetoric coming from some on the Left.  Yes, I know the Right has been guilty of going over the line in the past too, but nothing like this, especially considering the actions following some of this hateful speech.  Hateful and violent speech like this is never acceptable from anyone, regardless of party affiliation.  We should ALL stand together and condemn it accordingly!

But, it seems that we are indeed a nation sorely divided and returning to civil discourse, let alone reuniting as fellow Americans appears to be a lost cause.  In the words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"  Sadly, the answer from the Left appears to be a resounding " HELL NO!"

29 comments:

Majormajor said...

Mr. Paine,

Do you believe as I do that Congress should investigate how the liberal democrat, Bernie supporter was radicalized?

Majormajor said...

Here are some more love from self radicalized liberals.

Dem Strategist Unapologetic About Creating ‘Hunt Republican Congressmen’ Hashtag “We are in a war with selfish, foolish & narcissistic rich people.”
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/dem-strategist-unapologetic-about-creating-hunt-republican-congressmen-hashtag

Nebraska Democrat Calls GOP Assassination Attempt ‘Funny’.
http://www.hannity.com/articles/election-493995/shameless-nebraska-democrat-calls-gop-assassination-15919373/

That they blame the victim of their violence is akin to blaming a rape victim for the rape.

Majormajor said...

I wouldn’t have made that joke myself, but it is clearly and obviously facetious,” Littmann said. “As a strict pacifist, I believe that all violence is immoral, period. But it’s absurd to take the joke literally.”

More liberal "humor".

A student group at the University of Georgia is facing a police investigation after saying on Twitter that Republicans should be “guillotined.”

Responding to a story about a professor at the Art Institute of Washington who allegedly claimed that House Republicans should be “lined up and shot,” the Young Democratic Socialists at the University of Georgia reportedly tweeted that the Republican members of the House should instead be “guillotined.”

David Littmann, the founder of the Young Democratic Socialists chapter at the University of Georgia who graduated in 2016, claimed that the tweet was made in jest.

Hahaha, sooo funny, these liberals.

Majormajor said...

Looks like the Russians stole another election in Georgia. Time to blame Putin and start an inquiry.

woodenman1954 said...

I went on a Conservative website a few years ago and introduced myself as a Liberal and a few people there thought I should be killed and conversation turned into how liberals should be rounded up and gotten rid of. I never went back there again.

Do you agree with those sentiments Chuck?

Majormajor said...

James, welcome back from your vacation, I hope it was restful and uneventful.
No, I do not agree with those comment. But what's your point? Are you trying to create a false equivalency? Are you an elected official? Talk is cheap, but bullets are real.

Majormajor said...

This link will take you to a site with has a map that displays criminal incidents in which Trump supporters were targeted for political reasons.

https://www.amren.com/news/2017/05/anti-trump-hate-map/

The operative word here is "criminal", IE: an action took place, not v verbal on a website.

woodenman1954 said...

Thanks, I visited many small New England towns and got in tons of walking, with a very nice woman also I might add.

The point I was trying to make is that there is a lot of hate on both sides not just from the Liberal side as you seem to think. We are up to over 400 mass shootings a year and I think the number will keep going up every year. Something is wrong with this country and I do not think it is because of too many guns. Canada has as many guns based on population and they do not have hardly any mass shootings.

T. Paine said...

"Do you believe as I do that Congress should investigate how the liberal democrat, Bernie supporter was radicalized?" ~ Majormajor

No sir, I don't. I suspect you are asking this tongue-in-cheek to make your point, and I definitely get it if such is the case. The police or perhaps the FBI should but congress should stick to drafting bills that do the work of the people and abide by the constitution. Sanders is a left-wing loon, and so are many of his supporters, and there are many of them in congress. The best thing we could do is insist that they ALL draft a bill and pass a law instituting term limits for the House and Senate. I won't hold my breath though.

Next, thanks for providing more evidence of "love trumping hate" from the Left, my friend. I realize that both sides have been guilty of this over the years, but I honestly cannot recall more extreme hate and calls for violence, even supposedly in jest, than have come from the Left of late.

Woodenman, I am sorry that some idiots were so hateful to you when you went to a right wing blog. Fools like that undermine what they purportedly are advocating as supposed conservatives. There is no place for hate and calls for violence against those with whom we disagree. Indeed a vibrant and civil debate of ideas and ideals is necessary in order to keep our representative republic healthy. I absolutely condemn those people that treated you like that, sir.

It sounds as if you had a wonderful vacation though, so I am happy for you with that. I have been slow to respond the last week, as my youngest daughter just got married and we were trying to get everything ready for the big day. It was beautiful though.

Anyway, I further agree that guns are not the problem. It is a lack of understanding and a quick willingness to resort to violence, even deadly violence, over issues that should never have risen to that level in the first place. I do not have a problem with someone using deadly force in the protection of themselves or loved ones from grave danger. I would do so myself if so confronted. I would never resort to violence simply because someone has a different political or religious view than I do. It is truly sad that so many Americans have become radicalized enough today (on both sides) to think that such a violent response is acceptable.

Majormajor said...

"We are up to over 400 mass shootings a year"
I think it would be good if you defined "mass shootings".

woodenman1954 said...

I believe a mass shooting is three or more people getting shot at one time. With a little luck we will hit 500 next year.

Majormajor said...

Who is to blame for these mass shootings?
1. the gun
2. the NRA
3. the GOP
4. the shooter

In other news of the day, more liberal hate is being displayed.

Elise Jordan warned Republicans against defending a fact-challenged President Donald Trump, comparing doing so to “hugging a suicide bomber” on MSNBC Thursday.

Johnny Depp jokes about KILLING Donald Trump at Glastonbury 2017, asking ‘when was the last time an actor assassinated a President?"

30 GOP Congressmen Have Been Attacked or Threatened Since May

Who caused this radical behavior?
The GOP
The NRA
President Trump

I do not agree with the concept that both sides have been equally bad or responsible. There is no evidence, other than hearsay, to support this claim. The hard fact and truth is the liberal of today is being radicalized to commit violence against anyone who doesn't share their socialist view.

Today's liberal has outlawed hate speech unless it's their hate speech.
Further, as the election in Georgia has just showed us, hating President Trump does NOT win elections, something I hope liberals never learn.

Majormajor said...

Shocking news, who would have thought liberals could be so full of hate?

OMAHA, Ne (FOX42KPTM) - A Nebraska Democratic Party official is now in hot water. An audio recording was posted on YouTube Thursday with Phil Montag, a technology chairman, voicing how glad he was Louisiana Congressman Steve Scalise got shot last week at a baseball practice. Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman Jane Kleeb confirmed to FOX 42 News Thursday it was really his voice.

"His whole job is to get people, convince Republicans to (expletive) kick people off (expletive) health care. I'm glad he got shot," said Montag in the audio recording.

Montag is now looking for a new job. Kleeb let him go after the recording became public.

"I wish he was (expletive) dead," said Montag in the recording.

Makes you wonder what else they're full of.

T. Paine said...

"Who is to blame for these mass shootings?
1. the gun
2. the NRA
3. the GOP
4. the shooter"

This precisely sums up the problem. We assign blame to everyone except the shooter... unless the criminal doing the shooting is a conservative.

Majormajor, I was not trying to draw a false equivalency. I know that there have been some right wing hate groups and idiots that have advocated violence in the past and they deserve all of our condemnation.

That said, the Left has been particularly egregious with their hateful rhetoric and calls for violence, especially of late. The examples I provided in the article and that you have supplemented are proof of that.

I was criticized as being hateful and a racist in the past simply because I disagreed with President Obama ON POLICY. One can only wonder how fast the secret service would have shown up to speak with me if I had done a skit showing his severed head.

woodenman1954 said...

As usual there are two sides to the story, here is an article detailing the amount of political violence in the country by the Right Wing. It far surpasses Left Wing violence and also Islamic violence.

https://apps.revealnews.org/homegrown-terror/

This whole "Who's party is worse" is like pissing into the wind. I rather discuss specific issues and see if we can reach some common ground.

For instance the Republicans want to spend 640 billion on the military,well over a trillion with ancillary costs, and only 510 billion actually running the country. I think that is insane myself.

Majormajor said...

Odd but the map I provided covered a 18 month period, while Woody yours covered nine years.

Majormajor said...

More from the Unhinged Left.

http://iotwreport.com/leftist-comedian-threatens-to-start-killing-old-a-conservative-white-men/

woodenman1954 said...

Chuck, you are beating a dead horse, everybody knows there is a huge rift between Liberals and Conservatives. In these crazy times there are much more interesting things to talk about.

Majormajor said...

Woody,

You call the liberal violence against conservatives, "a huge rift"?
I call that an example of liberal spin.

woodenman1954 said...

Here is the listing of 200 people killed by Right Wing Extremist.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/01/30/939874/-30-years-of-right-wing-violence-in-pictures


Most of what you and Paine are talking about is just name calling which is not as bad as killing someone.

Majormajor said...

Really, so name calling is ok?

Define "most of".

You do realize that the article you linked to is from 2011, do all liberals live in the past like you do?

Majormajor said...

Woddy,

Maybe I hould have asked,


Is that true or did you hear it on CNN?

woodenman1954 said...

Here is another article proving Conservatives and the politicians they elect are not god like and perfect as you seem to think.


http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/41078-senate-gop-health-care-bill-estimated-to-kill-28-600-more-in-us-each-year-and-drop-22-million-from-insurance#14986098404561&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=

This is brand new information from today!

Majormajor said...

Golly Woody,
You sure are reaching, explain where I ever said Conservatives and the politicians they elect are God.

The fact is the left is now unhinged, and as you are proving by being willing to do anything to avoid facing that reality.

For decades the left has being screaming that the right is violent, now that the facts show that to not be true, the left is in major melt down

T. Paine said...

"This whole 'Who's party is worse' is like pissing into the wind. I rather discuss specific issues and see if we can reach some common ground." ~ Woodenman

James, I wholeheartedly agree with you, sir. Yes, militia groups and other right wing groups have perpetrated violence against innocents. I condemn them unequivocally. I further condemn the Black Lives Matters, Occupy Wall Street, and other anarchist left wing groups similarly. Violence in order to further one's political agenda is never right. Violence in defense of freedom or human rights is acceptable ONLY as a last resort when used as a defensive measure. I condemn ALL politically motivated violence from whatever sector, faction, or ideology accordingly. I think we all can agree on that, just as a vast majority of good intentioned Americans, both left and right, would similarly agree.

"Most of what you and Paine are talking about is just name calling which is not as bad as killing someone." ~ James

In theory, I would agree with you, James. In actually practice, when a person (left or right) makes threats or incites violence with their rhetoric, that is no longer constitutionally protected free speech. While I agree that most of the nonsense being spewed by Hollywood leftists and their ilk is basically harmless, when specific comments are made that someone would love to "bomb the White House" or "kill the president", then that line has been crossed. Surely you must agree with that, James, right?

Like Majormajor, I hardly think of ANY politician as "god-like" whether Republican or Democrat. Frankly I would sacrifice the small handful of good constitution-serving legislators if we could rid ourselves of all 535 members of the House and Senate and simply start over with non-career minded public servants.

I have noticed that the Right-wing kooks spouting violence seem to come out of their holes when the Left is in power. I have seen the same of Left-wing nuts coming out when the Right is in power. Right now, I have to agree with Majormajor that a seemingly long-unprecedented display of hate speech, violent rhetoric, and actual violence from the Left is absoluting in ascension now.

Think if people could simply live and let live, or as Thomas Jefferson put it with his standard of if "it neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg" then we should just let people believe and act as they will within the dictates of righteous laws. If only....

Majormajor said...

Mr. Paine,

First post on the latest thread by Tom is from Dave Dubya, in which he says, "And there is dark heart of American con-servatism. It is fascism and un-American.

But in their demented minds, they are the "Real Americans". Just like the goose-stepping SS were "Good Germans".

They are a dangerous, and a cult, in every sense of the word."

No hate there.



T. Paine said...

Yeah, I have noticed that certain folks, especially Dave, that are decrying the hate from the Right are the loudest ones twisting our words and using the most hateful rhetoric in trying to support their own Left-wing assertions. There are factions on the Right that are guilty and worthy of scorn and I acknowledge that and do condemn them. I wish that good folks like Dave would do likewise in calling out such hate from the left.

Majormajor said...

Mr.Paine,

Have you seen these? More cracks in the man caused climate change lie.

Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann.
http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/

Study Finds Temperature Adjustments Account For ‘Nearly All Of The Warming’ In Climate Data
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/05/exclusive-study-finds-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-climate-data/

T. Paine said...


Thanks for sharing! Unfortunately you cannot change their beliefs in articles of faith with these climate change adherents by using science and facts. They will only project back onto us that we are ignorant, uneducated, and cultish in our denial of man-caused global warming. The irony of the charges is truly amazing though.