tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post6803432742013099509..comments2024-03-28T14:14:11.551-06:00Comments on Unabashedly American: Democratic National Committe Releases Slanderous Ad Against the US Chamber of CommerceDarrell Michaelshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05474956372325309461noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-31555233277361594592010-10-17T10:26:56.867-06:002010-10-17T10:26:56.867-06:00I find it hilarious because our own Presient's...I find it hilarious because our own Presient's salary is paid by China, our government is in debt to that country for trillions of dollars. What hipocrasy!free0352https://www.blogger.com/profile/09930138880454672809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-63438238383229652122010-10-15T11:38:49.769-06:002010-10-15T11:38:49.769-06:00Dubya, I made a mistake. The NY Times article was...Dubya, I made a mistake. The NY Times article was from Friday instead of Saturday. <br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09donate.html?src=tp&scp=1&sq=Chamber%20of%20Commerce%20money%20debunked&st=cse<br /><br />From that article, "White House officials acknowledged Friday that they had no specific evidence to indicate that the chamber had used money from foreign entities to finance political attack ads. <br /><br />'The president was not suggesting any illegality,' Bob Bauer, the White House counsel, said."<br /><br />Further, I absolutely agree with you, Dubya, about the GOP and the Bush administration being hugely responsible for the out of control deficit spending... initially. <br /><br />Unfortunately the Democrats in congress and President Obama seem to think that the solution to this mess is to raise that deficit spending by several orders of magnitude.<br /><br />And the Dems were indeed in charge in the last part of the Bush administration too and were hardly powerless accordingly.Darrell Michaelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05474956372325309461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-68191457976461207722010-10-15T11:12:55.901-06:002010-10-15T11:12:55.901-06:00Even if your percentages are accurate, that still ...Even if your percentages are accurate, that still does not reflect the balance of influence. That would be like saying 98% of non-wealthy Americans are more influential than the top one percent economic elite in politics. Sorry. Money talks, and Big Money talks loudest. That is the truth, sir.<br /><br />Which Times article are you referring to? The one from Oct. 11 that says, "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which does not identify its corporate members, spent $10 million over the last week on advertisements, mostly against Democrats, records show."<br /><br />The CoC is a corporate Republican lobby that does not represent the majority of Americans. That is also the truth, sir.<br /><br />News flash. The horrible situation you refer to was not a result of progressives, but by Bush/Cheney Republicans and their spineless corporatist Democrat appeasers. Remember who ran our country into the ground for eight years with record debt and deficit. Remember Cheney saying, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter". I certainly do. <br /><br />The only remotely "progressive" legislation during the Bush debacle was the Medicare "reform". But that turned into yet another unfunded boondoggle hallmark of Bushism.<br /><br />If you cannot acknowledge the fact that people claiming to be conservative are largely responsible for our national debt, you are sadly impaired.<br /><br />You're too intellegent to be sounding like a Limbaugh fanatic scapegoating liberals for everything. I am sure you know that is just not true. You are entitled to disagree with liberal ideals and policies, but don't try to say liberals were empowered enough to have control over anything the past decades. It's just not true. Republicans and corporatist Dems have done the damage.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-45231945529859372362010-10-15T09:32:08.566-06:002010-10-15T09:32:08.566-06:00Dubya, that is absolutely and unequivocally false...Dubya, that is absolutely and unequivocally false, sir. The US Chamber of Commerce is comprised with 98% of its members being small American businesses with less than 100 employees. 70% of its member businesses have less than 20 employees.<br /><br />Further, any donations from multinational companies have their monies held in a separate CoC fund which is not used for domestic US ads or campaigns.<br /><br />Again, this was all debunked by the less-than-conservative-GOP-friendly New York Times last week.<br /><br />You are buying into false allegations and slanderous comments made by the left in order to try and create any issue that might gain traction to distract voters from the horrible situation that the progressives have placed us in with their policies, sir.Darrell Michaelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05474956372325309461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-58688309841787493802010-10-14T16:26:55.953-06:002010-10-14T16:26:55.953-06:00It is the fact that the COC will not disclose wher...It is the fact that the COC will not disclose where the political activism money comes from that makes them look guilty. They are dominated by multinational petroleum and pharmaceutical giants and are a partisan Republican lobby. They are not a mom and pop outfit.<br /><br />All good reasons to not trust them.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-37455594204433071272010-10-14T11:08:45.737-06:002010-10-14T11:08:45.737-06:00Dave, even that vaunted conservative paper, The Ne...Dave, even that vaunted conservative paper, The New York Times, investigated this, as did ABC News, and found no evidence to support that claim. It is absolutely false.<br /><br />I'd be curious from what objective source you base your opinion on this topic. Perhaps the morning DNC talking points email? :)Darrell Michaelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05474956372325309461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-408858764761620479.post-29029298614596726062010-10-14T11:04:01.174-06:002010-10-14T11:04:01.174-06:00It's not slander when it's true, Paine.
T...It's not slander when it's true, Paine.<br /><br />The Chamber is using foreign money to fund US elections. That is 100% illegal, no matter how you slice it. It is not the opinion of the Democratic Party, it is a fact that has been proven.Dave Splashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416298425231496822noreply@blogger.com